"Wall to Wall Jesus?" Flip Benham Says YES Phil Donahue! - And the Nation via MSNBC!

 
"Wall to Wall Jesus?" Flip Benham Says YES Phil Donahue! - And the Nation via MSNBC!

"Maybe you'll give your heart to Christ. You need to, Phil.You really do."

By Pastor Stephen Mashburn
First written September 26, 2002

I've been away from the news media in the papers or on the web for 3 days. I did manage to record an appearance by Flip Benham on the Phil Donahue Show Wednesday night at 7 Central on MSNBC. Phil Donahue and MSNBC heard more of the pure gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Word of God than the network has broadcast to date. I mean Flip really gave Phil heaven!

Donahue is upset over AFR having 194 stations now with applications for hundreds more replacing defunct NPR transponder outfits that don't follow the FCC requirements. Phil called it ominously "Jesus on the dial." Here's a few choice excerpts from the transcript:

> DONAHUE: ... What's wrong with NPR?
> Why would you want to replace it?
> What are you giving the nation that NPR
> isn't giving it?
>
> BENHAM: Well, I think that there's no
> question. It's called the truth, Phil. It's
> called that there's a ubiquitous censorship
> in NPR that doesn't allow the truth to get
> out, like that little babies boys and girls
> in their mother's wombs would like to live.
> Like that homosexuality is a sin that will
> destroy a person that practices that
> behavior, and a nation that approves of it.
> Like Islam is a lie from the pit of hell that
> seeks to destroy, and lies about
> Christianity. So,it's the truth.
>
> DONAHUE: Yes. You want more radio
> stations to be able to carry that message,
> obviously.
>
> BENHAM: Well, I would like to see it
> carried on your programs. I'd like to see
> it carried everywhere, the gospel of
> Jesus Christ, lifted up the way it really
> should be.
>
> DONAHUE: ... Yes. In a moment we'll
> meet a young woman who will be out
> here telling us that since the Reagan
> years, the number of Christian, or
> religious conservative radio stations, has
> doubled since the Reagan years.
> Pretty soon we'll be wall to wall Jesus,
> from the left end of the dial to...
> BENHAM: Maybe you'll give your heart to
> Christ. You need to, Phil.
> DONAHUE: Right.
> BENHAM: You really do.
> DONAHUE: So, you know, can a person
> who espouses choice appear on those
> stations?
> BENHAM: Absolutely. Everybody can
> appear. You know, God is the one who
> gave us the choice. Not you, Phil
> Donahue. God said, I set before you
> life and death, blessings and curses.
> Now choose life, that you might live.
> God gives us a choice,
> Phil. Not you.
>
> DONAHUE: In your opinion.
> BENHAM: No, that's what the Bible says.
> DONAHUE: Oh, it's in the Bible. It must be
> true. Stuart Epperson, you're chairman
> of ..."

Flip just kept smiling and let Phil and his God-hater guest Laura Flanders whine while the Christian Broadcaster, Stuart Epperson set the facts straight. That went on and Flip just remained silent.
Until:

> DONAHUE: Reverend Benham,
> get in here.
> BENHAM: Hey, listen, I don't have-I don't
> even need to talk, Phil.You have been
> whining about the gospel of Jesus Christ
> for most of your adult life! The fact of
> the matter is that this gospel is bringing
> truth! Obviously, people want to hear that
> truth. And I think that you should stop
> trying to censor it from...
> FLANDERS: Who's censoring who?
> BENHAM: ... your foolish television
> program! You are censoring!
> FLANDERS: Flip, you have spent a career...
> BENHAM: You are the one that is upset...
> FLANDERS: ... harassing people...
> BENHAM: ... about the gospel of Christ
> being presented...
> FLANDERS: ... who are exercising their
> constitutional...
> BENHAM:... anywhere!
> FLANDERS: ... rights!
> DONAHUE: Excuse me...
> BENHAM: It's the typical pro-choice whine
> that we have to live with all the time!
> EPPERSON: Hey, Phil...
> BENHAM: You know, not the church, not
> the state. Women must decide their fate.

Flip set back for a moment and then indicated to Phil without interrupting that he wished to make a comment on the NPR issue.. I'll edit the transcript and just piece together what Flip said without all of the interrupt attempts.

> DONAHUE: Yes. Reverend Benham?
> EPPERSON: There is no holy war!
> [against NPR]
> BENHAM: Well, NPR is just becoming
> irrelevant, just like you are, Phil! It's
> becoming irrelevant because you've
> declared war on the wrong Lord!
> And we don't have any problem in
> presenting the gospel, but you
> don't want anyone to present...
>
> DONAHUE: Yes. Reverend Benham, do
> Jews to go heaven?
> BENHAM: Of course they don't!
> Not unless they come through the
> blood of Jesus Christ!
>
> DONAHUE: Right. And that's a message I
> would assume that would be broadcast on
> these increasing religious stations.
>
> BENHAM: Let me just tell what you would
> be broadcast, Phil, is that Jesus invites all
> to come! that are laboring and are heavy-
> laden, for all to come to him! They aren't
> like the ayatollah to force the dogma down
> your throat! Jesus bids to come!
> Not forcing dogma!
> BENHAM: You've wasted your life and a
> lot of people's time along with...

Seeing and hearing the show was so much better. OSA has been getting all kinds of positive email thanking Flip for presenting the gospel of Jesus Christ and Word of God on national TV without compromising. It encouraged pastors and saints alike see a Christian plead with someone like Phil to accept Jesus as Lord.
You all do likewise and keep storming those gates!

You can read the complete text of this interesting and enlightening MSNBC interview here at Transcript of the Phil Donahue Show on MSNBC 9/24/2002. It is in a very readable format. Enjoy!